In this post I put head to head the two most often compared MIG welders in their class - The Hobart Handler 140 MIG welder and the Lincoln Electric Weld Pak 140. I attempt to answer the questions:
- Which one has the edge?
- How do I choose one over the other?
- Is it going to be any good for what I want to do?
How well will I get on with answering these questions?
Let us see in this head to head who comes out on top.
Read on ...
The Overall Hobart 140 v Lincoln 140 Verdict
In the end I feel it is going to some down to your own preferences, as there is very little to tip the balance either way.
Both are good looking welders that will do a job for you.
For me the Hobart Handler 140 has the edge because of:
- The five stepped welding output control makes it a touch more flexible
- The Hobart 140 has a slightly wider welding output range
- And the Hobart 140 has got the stronger warranty.
But if you are Aluminum welding, then you really should go for the Lincoln Electric Weld Pak 140. I tell you why further down in the post.
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Pros of the Hobart and Lincoln 140
Cons of the Hobart and Lincoln 140
Read on for more details.
At a Glance Comparison Chart
Hobart 140 vs Lincoln 140
Hobart 500559 Handler 140 MIG Welder
Lincoln Electric Weld Pak 140 MIG Welder
20% at 90 Amp
20% at 90 Amp
Amp Output Range
25 to 140 Amp
30 to 140 amp
Flux Core Wire and Shielding Gas
Yes - Possibly light occasional use
Yes - with optional spool gun
Max Steel Gauge
24 Gauge to 1/4 inch, 5/16 ths with multiple passes
24 Gauge to 1/4 inch, 5/16 ths with multiple passes
5/3/1 - 5 yrs on Transformer, 3 yrs on Electronics, 1 yr on Welding Gun
3 years on MIG, 1 year on Gas Regulator, 90 days on Welding Gun
The Difference Between Lincoln 140 Welders
A quick heads up in case you are wondering which Lincoln I am comparing the Hobart too.
The Lincoln 140 is marketed and sold in many guises. The same welder is known by a few names.
- MIG Pak 140
- Pro MIG 140
- Easy MIG 140
- Weld Pak 140HD
They are all one and the same welder and it is clever marketing between Lincoln Electric and their many distributors.
So if you are looking for say, the Lincoln Easy MIG 140 vs Hobart Handler 140 or even the Hobart Handler 140 vs Lincoln Pro MIG 140 don't worry you are in the right place just read on.
If you would more specific details on the Lincoln 140 and its various versions, do take a look at my document on the site all about it.
In my post Lincoln 140 MIG welder review 'Lincoln Weld Pak 140, the Cheat Sheet' I dish all the details.
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Hobart 130 vs 140?
I know that this page is appearing in the search for those of you looking for this comparison and Google has sent you here for that review.
And I do indeed have a document focused on the difference between the Hobart 130 vs 140.
Use this link to pop on over to take a look that article "Hobart 130 vs 140, Which One? This will Help". There I do a head to head comparison of those two welders.
Welding Jobs That the Hobart 140 MIG and The Lincoln 140 Are Ideal For
The welders are aimed at the light to medium duty end of the market. They are designed for repairs around the home or yard, light to medium farm repairs or car repairs.
Professional welders who want a nice easy portable welder often buy them.
Features of the Hobart Handler 140 vs the Lincoln 140
The Hobart and the Lincoln are extremely well designed with comparable looking front panels.
The power switch, output voltage control and variable wire feed control are on the front. There is a light on each one that comes on should the welders overheat through exceeding their duty cycle.
Inside each cabinet is a quality Aluminum drive system that is robust and built to last.
Welding charts are inside each cabinet door to tell you where to start so you can get your welding right.
Head to head they are very similar and you'll see it is going to be in the details where we can tell them apart.
YouTube Video on The Hobart Handler 140
Hobart has this great 2 minute 7 second YouTube video giving an overview of the Handler 140. It's a useful video introduction to this welder. Take a look.
Video Credit: Hobart Welding Products
Hobart vs Lincoln 140 Use of Flux Core Wire
Both the Hobart 140 and the Lincoln Electric 140 can weld with flux core wire.
Ideal for a beginner who may want to start off welding with flux core wire and then move up to using solid wire and shielding gas later.
If you would like a good idea of the kind of flux core wires you could choose for your Lincoln 140 or Hobart 140. Then check out my article here where I go into the best and why.
Lincoln vs Hobart 140 Welding With Solid Wire
Yes, they can both weld with solid MIG welding wire.
So when you're ready, to MIG weld with solid wire you can get yourself some shielding gas.
The two welders are designed with the beginner in mind and are equally easy to set up for MIG and to use gas.
I also have looked at the best solid MIG wires for mild steel you can use in the Hobart and Lincoln. When you are ready you can take a look using this link.
Welding Output Ranges Compared
Welding Output Ranges Compared
The Hobart Handler 140 has an output range of 25 to 140 Amp
The Lincoln Electric Weld Pak 140HD output ranges from 30 to 140 Amp.
There is a small difference in where the output voltages start. Though it is unlikely that you will notice much of a difference when you weld.
Matched: Maximum Mild Steel Sizes Welded
Both the Hobart 140 and the Lincoln 140 will weld mild steel sizes from 24 gauge up 1/4 inch. So no difference there.
But both welders are challenged when you reach 1/4 inch steel and above. You will need multiple weld passes and beveling of the edges of your steel joint to weld 1/4 inch and 5/16ths sized steel.
Are you a skilled welder?
Then beveling and more weld passes will be no issue for you.
Not so much … practice makes perfect.
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In Depth Look at the Hobart and Lincoln Duty Cycles
The Hobart 140 and the Lincoln 140 both have duty cycles of 20% at 90 Amps. Which is pretty good for welders at this end of the market.
What does the Duty Cycle Mean on the Hobart and Lincoln Welders?
This means that at a 90 Amp setting you will be able to weld for two straight minutes before you must rest the welder for eight minutes.
On the Hobart 140 should you exceed the duty cycle the trip switch to prevent over heating cuts in. You must leave the Hobart welder 15 minutes so it is able to cool down before you can start welding again. Or risk damaging your Hobart welder.
For the Lincoln Electric the thermostatic protection automatically resets when the welder is cool enough.
The Lincoln Electric manual states that the thermostatic protection resets when the welder returns to a 'reasonable operating temperature'.
Although unhelpfully it doesn't say how long that will take.
Generally, it would depend on the temperature of the environment you are working in. Live in a hot climate or using your welder at the height of a hot and humid summer? Then expect it to take longer to cool your welder down.
On this detail the two MIG's differ.
Lincoln 140 and Hobart Output and Voltage Controls Compared
The Hobart Handler 140 has a tapped dial that you use to set the output settings. The dial has five positions.
The term tapped means that the dial moves with a click to each position one through to five.
The Lincoln Electric Weld Pak also has a tapped dial that moves from A through to D. This makes for four tapped settings.
With similar output ranges for each machine, the Hobart just had the edge with one more output setting.
One Thing to Know About Tapped Dials
Tapped dials have no half settings. What do I mean by that?
There is no way to set the dial at two and a half or B and a half.
For some, particularly beginners this makes the welders easy to use.
The experienced welder who wants to play more with the settings may find this a nuisance. Why?
Because it is harder to fine tune your weld output.
Lincoln 140 vs Hobart 140 Wire Feed Control
The wire feed dial is infinitely variable on the two welders. The dial runs from one to ten.
Outside of the tapped dials, further flexibility on fine tuning your welding is achieved through playing with the wire feed settings.
Finding the Welding Guide On the Hobart 140 and the Lincoln
On both welders there is a welding guide on the inside of the door to the cabinet.
The guides give advice on the different metals the welders can weld.
The guide on the Hobart details and shows the polarity needed - flux core versus solid wire and shielding gas.
Each guide details the settings for whether you are using flux-core welding wire or solid wire and shielding gas. Plus they advise on the settings for the gauge of metal you are welding.
The guides tell you what settings to dial up on each of the output voltage dials and the suggested wire speed setting.
This makes it easier for beginners and the skilled alike to get their starting weld settings.
I think with either MIG welder you'll want to do your own practice sessions on the materials you are welding to find the right settings for you.
You may find the welders run hotter or colder than the settings for your particular workshop situation.
Lincoln and the Hobart 140 Thermostatic Protection
Each welder comes with thermostatic protection just in case you exceed the duty cycle while you are welding.
Why is that important?
Because you wont want a melt down of the internals of your welder through over heating.
Each welder has a light that comes on and fans that will run to cool the units down.
The Hobart 140 has a reset button you have to switch to reset the thermostatic protection. The Lincoln 140 resets automatically.
However on the Hobart you have to wait at least fifteen minutes to start welding again.
You'll likely nee to wait a similar time on the Lincoln Electric. But as the Lincoln resets itself automatically this time would vary. Where you are using the Lincoln 140 and the ambient temperature would affect the cool down time.
Hobart vs Lincoln MIG Welders on Household Power
The two MIG welders use normal household 120V, 3 pin power and plug socket. The Hobart Handler needs 115V input voltage, the Lincoln Weld Pack 110V.
To work well they need sockets that are on a 20 Amp fused circuit with a good earth.
Though I would strongly suggest for both you get your local electrician to pay you a visit …
You could offer beers ...
To have a 30 Amp fused circuit put in.
As running these welders at their maximum welding output needs a larger fuse. Whether on a 20 Amp or 30 Amp circuit it is a really good idea to have nothing else plugged in and running on the same circuit.
And you may easy to do that. With lights or other equipment. But they will take power away from your welder. You'll get issues with your welding and won't understand why.
And it'll be that other electrical equipment drawing power you need for your shiny impressive welds.
Lincoln Electric 140 YouTube Video
Lincoln Electric has this 2 minute 35 second YouTube video. It is an overview of the Lincoln Electric 125, 140 and 180. It's great to see where the Weld Pak 140 fits in the range of welders. And the video gives nice run through of the capabilities of the Lincoln 140 welder. Why not take a peak?
Retail Wire Feed Welders
Video Credit: Lincoln Electrictv
Hobart 140 Versus The Lincoln 140 Size Of Wire Comparison
The Hobart 140 uses:
- 0.023" to 0.035" sized solid wire for mild or stainless steel
The Lincoln 140 uses:
- 0.025" to 0.035" sizes of solid wire for mild or stainless steel
Both welders will use:
- 0.030" to 0.035" sized flux core wire
- 0.030 inch size solid Aluminum wire
- On the Lincoln Electric you will need the optional spool gun to weld Aluminum.
- On the Hobart 140 MIG may get away with doing light occasional Aluminum welding jobs.
Read more about this below.
Size of Wire Spools You Can Put In Each Welder
Both the Hobart and the Lincoln can take either 2 lb. or 10 lb. spools (4 inch or 8 inch spools) and have adaptors that enable you to switch between the different sized spools.
So you have the convenience of being able to use the larger spool sizes with the better cost per pound of wire should you wish to.
Contact Tips Supplied
The Lincoln Electric 140 comes supplied with three 0.025" and three 0.035" contact tips.
The Hobart Handler is supplied with two 0.030 contact tips only.
From this point of view Lincoln Electric is more generous with their starting in the box supplies.
Hobart and Lincoln Wire Feed Speed Compared
The wire speed rates on the two MIGs are infinitely variable. And from that point of view they are they same.
But on the Hobart the speed range is 40 to 700 inches per minute.
On the Lincoln 140 the speed range is 50 to 500 inches per minute.
The range on the wire feed speed is wider on the Hobart 140, giving you just that more flexibility. This could be useful to you on fine turning your weld, whether it is on the thinnest gauges of metal or the thickest.
Hobart Handler 140 Aluminum Welding Compared to Lincoln 140
Both the Hobart 140 and Lincoln 140 claim they can weld Aluminum so what does that mean in reality?
Welding Aluminum with Hobart 140
The Hobart 140 Aluminum spool gun?
Nope there is no such thing.
This means attempting to weld Aluminum on the Hobart 140 will take skill setting up.
Some will try to weld with the Aluminum wire spool in their Hobart. Then they will put a Teflon liner in the hose to the MIG gun.
Even with putting in a Teflon Liner and holding the MIG cable as level as possible, feeding soft Aluminum wire up 10 foot of cable to the gun may be too difficult. For all but the very skilled.
Even for small amounts of Aluminum welding.
I suggest you forget what the promotional material for the Hobart 140 says and save yourself hours of frustration. For Aluminum welding move up to a larger MIG in the Hobart range - one with a spool gun.
Lincoln 140 HD and Welding Aluminum
The Lincoln 140 does have a spool gun.
Yes it is at an extra cost. Even so this does make the Lincoln way more capable of Aluminum welding versus the Hobart 140.
On the Lincoln 140 you will be able to weld Aluminum from 22 gauge to 10 gauge.
If you are interested in welding Aluminum, I strongly suggest you use the spool gun on the Lincoln 140. It is going to be far easier and you will produce better welding results.
What Shielding Gas Can I Use On Either Welder?
Each of the MIG welders is supplied with quality dual gauge gas regulators for an Argon and CO2 gas mix.
The pair will use the standard Argon 75%/Carbon Dioxide 25% mix. And will use 100% Argon gas or 100% Carbon Dioxide gas.
Though for each of the welders you will need to purchase a gas regulator for Carbon Dioxide, as the gas regulators for Carbon Dioxide are different.
Tri-Mix Gas On the Hobart and Lincoln Welders
The Hobart Handler also supports Tri-Mix gas and so is more capable in this respect and means that you can weld stainless steel.
The Lincoln 140 claims to weld stainless steel but there is no indication of support for Tri-Mix gas.
Tri-Mix gas is necessary for MIG welding stainless steel. Your option for welding stainless steel on the Lincoln Weld Pak 140 would be to use flux core stainless steel filler wire.
I have an article that goes into detail on flux core stainless steel filler wire. It is not that easy to find but it is out there. I make some recommendations on how and which wire to choose. You can find the document here.
Changing Polarity On the Lincoln 140 vs the Hobart
Changing Polarity On the Lincoln 140 vs the Hobart
Switching from flux core welding to welding with solid wire and shielding gas is easy and straightforward on either welder.
The pair have easy screw in terminals for changing the welding gun polarity. This makes the change super easy to do for beginners.
Lincoln vs Hobart The Manuals
Each Manual is comprehensive and clear and makes it easy for the new owner to get up and running.
I think the Hobart Handler manual has the edge as you also get a hard copy of the welding chart that is printed on the inside of the cabinet door.
And that is useful if you damage your copy on the welder's cabinet door. Or in case you want to do some research on the right welding settings away from your Hobart MIG welder.
What do Users Of the Hobart 140 and Lincoln 140 Think?
Users of both MIG's seem to love them and generally have very good things to say about the welders.
This emphasizes that the welders are great welders and why they have such excellent reputations.
Take a look at what the reviewers on Amazon have written via my links below.
Scroll down to the bottom of each sales page, click on the star review rating you wish to look at and select the most recent from the drop down button to view the latest feedback. (Commissions Earned through Amazon Links)
View The Hobart 140 Page On Amazon
View the Lincoln 140 Page on Amazon
What is in the Boxes of Both Welders When Delivered?
Of course you get the MIG welders.
- In both there is a sample size of Flux Core Wire. In the Lincoln Electric box you also get a sample size of solid steel wire
- The pair have spool adaptors to allow you to put in for 8 inch spools of filler wire
- 2 x 0.030 inch contact tips are in the Hobart box. In the Lincoln Electric box you get 3 x 0.025 inch and 3 x 0.035 inch contact tips which is great to get you started
- There is a 10 foot cable to the welding gun, a 10 foot ground cable and a heavy duty ground clamp on each
- In each box there is a dual gas gauge regulator. Both regulators are of excellent quality
- Gas hoses for MIG Welding
There is a material thickness gauge in the Hobart 140 box.
In the Lincoln Electric there is a printed gauge as part of the welding guide on the inside of the welder's cabinet door. Not that easy to use if you are not able to hold your material up to the gauge to judge its thickness.
Owners Manual and set up guides. In the Lincoln Electric box there is a DVD with the manuals in it and a how to weld video.
Lincoln 140 vs Hobart 140 Size and Weight Compared
The real question behind comparing the sizes of these two welders is to work out how portable they are.
And yes, they are portable.
Lincoln Weld Pak
Hobart Handler 140
The Hobart weighs 57 lbs. and the Lincoln Electric is lighter at 50 lbs.
Their dimensions are;
Lincoln Weld Pak
Hobart Handler 140
13.7 inches High x 10.15 inch Wide x 17.9 inch Long
12 inches High x 11 inch Wide x 19.5 inch Long
Both are capable of being lifted around. But bear in mind that if you put in a large spool of welding wire you will be adding another 10lb or 11lbs to the weight.
For both I'd say a welding cart is an excellent idea. Particularly when MIG welding and you need to move a cylinder of gas too.
Who Makes the Hobart 140 vs the Lincoln 140?
The Hobart 140 is designed and manufactured in the US by Hobart Welding Products, who is now owned by ITW who also owns Miller Electric Mfg Co. The Lincoln Electric 140 is designed in the US and manufactured elsewhere.
If a welder designed and manufactured in the US is important to you then the Hobart 140 would be your choice.
Hobart vs Lincoln 140 MIG Welders the Warranties Compared
The Hobart 140 comes with the famous 5/3/1 warranty. 5 years on the transformer, 3 years on the electronics, 1 year on the welding gun.
The Lincoln 140 comes with 3 years on the MIG. 1 year on the gas regulator, 90 days on the welding gun. You can buy the option to extend your warranty by an additional two years on the Lincoln 140.
For me the Hobart has the edge in terms of the warranty offered.
Thank you for reading my article "Hobart 140 vs Lincoln 140 Can't Choose? Read This"..
I have chosen my winner in the Hobart Handler 140. And I hope I have helped you decide which out of the two is best for you.
Whether you are a beginner new to welding or a skilled welder either welder is very capable will do a good job for you.
For a more in depth look at each welder do check out my individual reviews by following the links below.