Whether you lust after these two welders for yourself or to give as a gift for a loved one getting into welding.
And it’s got to be a welder that will run on 120 volt power, cause that is all you have available.
Or your budget is fixed and both these welders are at the top end of what you can afford.
I aim to point out the similarities and differences in the two welders in this article “Hobart 130 vs 140 which one? This will Help.”
And help you choose which.
First let us have a look at a high level comparison in the table below.
Quick Comparison Chart Hobart 130 vs 140
|Hobart Handler 130||Hobart Handler 140|
|Flux Core and MIG||yes||yes|
|Duty Cycle||20% at 85 Amp||20% at 90 Amp|
|Amps||30 to 130||25 to 140|
|Metal Weld Thickness||24 gauge to 3/16th inch||24 gauge to 1/4 inch|
|Gun Cord Length||8 feet||10 feet|
Pros of the Hobart Handler 130 and the 140
- Both are flux core, MIG ready which means they will weld with solid wire and shielding gas
- You have included in the box a quality gas regulator and hose on the Hobart Handler 140
- The Hobart 130 has front dials that are easily read for setting the voltage for the gauge of metal you are welding.
- Both are easy to use and to set up for those beginning welding
- Both welders are 115V and will run on normal household power
- Both have great feedback and should do you proud on producing those welds
Cons of the Hobart Handler 130 and the 140
- The Hobart 130 is set up for flux core welding at the start. Additional options have to be purchased for welding with gas.
- Neither will weld Aluminum. If that is what you want you will need to look elsewhere
Verdict on the Two Welders Hobart 140 and 130
There could be 100 dollars difference in cost when you come to buy.
When would you choose one over the other?
Depends on the skill level you start with and where you plan to go with your welding. Mainly welding thinner metals and flux core? Then it is fine for you to choose the Hobart 130 and get the MIG accessories later when you need them.
Want a wider welding range capable welder from the start because you know your projects are going to need it? Start with the Hobart Handler 140, the bundled accessories and the wider capabilities quickly justify the difference in cost.
User’s Feed Back On Each of the Welders
Hobart has a great reputation and that is seen in their positive user feedback.
Largely both MIG have great feedback.
More Hobart 140s have been sold and this is illustrated in the higher number of reviews.
Don’t let that put you off, the reviews are very positive for the Hobart 130.
You can check the feedback on the sales pages.
I’ve provided links below.
Check Feedback for the Hobart 130 here.
Check Feedback for the Hobart 140 here.
Scroll down to the bottom of each sales page, click on the star review rating you wish to look at and select most recent from the drop down button to view the latest feedback.
Features of the 130 vs the Hobart 140
When you’re deciding which one, one of the first things to understand is what the welder is capable of.
Both these welders are wire feed MIG welders. This means that you weld using a spool of welding wire held inside each welder’s cabinet.
They are capable of welding with flux core welding wire or solid wire and shielding gas. You are free to start with flux core welding if you want and move to welding with solid wire and shielding gas later.
Want to know the basics of MIG welding. Take a look at my document here.
Starting with the Front
When you look at the Hobart Handler 130 vs 140 and have the two welders side by side, you’ll notice the front dials and layout look very similar.
Variable wire feed control at the top, power switch next to it. Below is the welding output dial, then the over temperature light along side.
Bottom front is where the MIG guns and ground clamps are connected.
Big brother Hobart 140 looks very similar to its smaller brother 130 … from the outside anyway.
I tell you about the differences. It lies in the details.
Hobart 130 and 140 Duty Cycles Compared
The Hobart Handler 130 has a duty cycle of 20% at 85 Amps. And the Hobart 140 has a duty cycle 20% at 90 Amps.
It seems like a small difference, but this difference affects how each welder is able to perform.
The Hobart’s 130 and 140 Duty Cycles Explained
The 20% figure represents how long you are able to weld over a ten minute period. 20% tells you that you can weld for two minutes continuously before you have to stop.
Both welders are rated at 20% so you will have the same two minutes from each.
The at number followed by Amperage tells you how hot the welder is able to go.
The Hobart 130’s duty cycle is measured at an amperage of 85, even though its maximum Amp output is 130 Amp.
The Hobart 140’s duty cycle is measured at 90 Amp when its maximum welding output is 140 Amp.
If you plan to weld thicker metal gauges and push these welder’s to the max, then your maximum welding time will be much shorter than the 2 minutes suggested.
Comparing the duty cycles you will get a bit more at the maximum welding output with the Hobart 140 compared to the 130. It will be a close run thing though.
Going over the duty cycle will trigger the over temperature switch. The over temperature switch stops you welding and prevents damage to your welder.
With both welders, should you trigger the over temperature light, 15 minutes must be waited to cool each welder before welding again.
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Welding Voltage Side by Side
The welding voltage range of the Hobart 130 is 30 Amps to a maximum of 130 Amp and the Hobart 140 is 25 Amp to 140 Amp. You have a wider range of welding output with the Hobart Handler 140. Which means you can weld a wider range of metal gauges.
Tapped Voltage Dials
Each of the Hobart Handlers is sold with tapped voltage dials.
The Hobart 130 has four positions. The 140 has five to reflect its greater capability and better welding granularity.
What does this mean?
Well if you are welding thin gauge steel say a car body panel you can go lower on the Hobart 140. And so have less risk of blowing through the metal that you are welding.
The opposite of this is at the top end. When you are welding thicker metal you can go to a higher Amperage on the 140. The Hobart 140 will give you better penetration for your weld on thicker metal gauges and so a stronger weld.
What is a Tapped Dial
I’ll take a moment to explain what a tapped dial means.
The dial moves with a click to each position. Want to set the dial between position 2 and 3? You can’t.
Some welders have an infinite range dial. This means that the dial runs smoothly from one end of the dial to the other. This gives you greater control of your welding amperage because you can set the dial exactly where you want.
The more experienced will like the greater control of an infinite dial. Beginners will find the tapped dials more helpful as they are distinct settings.
The dial on the Hobart 130 is usefully marked suggesting the gauge of metal for each setting,
However be prepared to do your own testing as it wouldn’t be unusual to find each welder runs hot or cool for your particular situation.
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Wire Feel control Contrasted Hobart Handler 130 vs 140
On the two welders the wire feed dial’s are infinitely variable, and goes from zero to 100 on the dial.
The Hobart 130 wire feed speed ranges from 0 to 415 inches per minute compared to the Handler 140’s 40 to 700 inches per minute. The greater wire feed speed on the Hobart 140 reflects the wider range of welding it is able to do and the fine tuning of wire feed speed assists.
Hobart 130 EZ-Mode
This mode is only available on the Hobart 130 and is selected on the wire feed control. When EZ-Mode is set a LED light is lit.
The voltage control is then used to select the material thickness you are welding.
Then when you weld it is the only thing you need to set.
The Hobart Handler 130 automatically feeds the welding wire out at the speed that’s needed.
Note that this mode is only available for flux core wire welding only.
If you are mainly going to weld with flux core and are attracted to this feature then this could mean the Hobart 130 is for you.
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Metal Thicknesses and Type Compared Hobart 130 vs 140
Both the Hobart Handler 130 and 140 will weld mild steel and stainless steel.
The difference between them can be seen in the thickness of metal that can be welded.
The 130 will weld 24 gauge to 3/16th of an inch metal (with flux core welding wire single pass).
The Hobart Handler 140 will weld up to 1/4 inch metal (either with flux core welding wire or solid wire and multiple passes).
Think about the type of welding you plan to do. Need to weld 1/4 inch and have the skill or are prepared to practice and learn beveling and multiple passes then the Hobart 140 is your welder.
Welding Parameters Chart on Each
On each the welding parameters chart is on the inside of the door to the cabinet.
The chart advises on
- The type of metals you’re welding, steel or stainless steel
- The recommended voltage setting
- The recommended wire, flux core or solid wire
- Size of wire recommended
- Shielding gas mix and type
The guides give you a starting point for your welding. As you get to know the welder, no doubt you will adjust your settings to accommodate your individual welding.
YouTube Video Positioning Both Welders
This video from Hobart outlines where the Hobart 130 and 140 welders are positioned in the Hobart 130 line up of consumer welders.
MIG Welding Basics & How to Select a MIG Welder
Each welder is protected from prolonged use causing overheating. The over temperature light will come on and the welders will stop welding.
Leave your MIG gun to the side and wait the 15 minutes for your welder to cool down. Do not remove the power from the welder as they are fan cooled and the fan must run to cool the units down.
There is a reset button on the back to switch once you have waited the 15 minutes so you can start welding again.
Hobart 130 and 140 Side By Side on Household Power
Yes, both these welders will run on a normal household 3 pin powered socket with a good ground connection.
Both the Hobart 130 and the 140 are the same, needing 115V input voltage.
You can run each on a 20 Amp fused circuit though to run at their maximum a 30 Amp circuit would be recommended.
If you’re not able to do that in your home workshop or garage, then ensure your welder is the only device working and plugged into that circuit while you are welding.
That way you will have the maximum power available to your welder.
And yes you will notice the difference in your welds.
Side by Side – Welding Wires
The Hobart Handler 130 will weld with:
- 0.023″ to 0.030″ solid MIG wire for mild or stainless steel
- 0.030″ to 0.035″ flux cored welding wire
The Hobart 140 will weld with:
- 0.023″ to 0.035″ solid MIG wire for mild or stainless steel
- 0.030″ to 0.035″ flux core wire
You match the thickness of the wire to the metals you are welding. Whether you would choose one over the other would depend on what you plan to weld.
I have put together a document covering the best solid MIG wires for mild steel. You can take a look.
I have also done a round up on the best flux core wires for mild steel. Follow this link.
And lastly you can look at some great stainless steel welding wires. Here.
YouTube Video on the Hobart Handler 140
Hobart has a great YouTube video on the Handler 140 you can watch and listen to.
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Hobart Handler 130 vs 140 Size of Spools Compared
Both the Hobart 130 and the 140 can hold either 2 lb. or 10 lb. spools (4 inch or 8 inch spools).
However on the Hobart 130 you have to purchase the adaptor separately to accommodate the 8 inch spools.
On the Hobart 140 the spool hub supplied is capable of being adapted for either 4 inch or 8 inch spools.
Being able to use the large 8 inch spools comes with an advantage as large spools are cheaper per lb to buy. But
if you are only welding occasionally you risk rusting your wire if left in your welder and rendering it unusable.
Your choice maybe for smaller spools as you are only welding now and then.
Weld more often and the larger spools are a price advantage.
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Hobart 130 and 140 Cords to the MIG gun
The Hobart Handler 130 has 8 feet of cable running up to the MIG gun. The Hobart 140 has 10 feet of cable.
This does make a difference when you are trying to get to an awkward corner or on an angle. The extra footage helps and makes the Hobart 140 much more capable.
Welding Aluminum Compared
Neither of these MIG welders is set up to weld Aluminum.
They don’t have any means for fitting a spool gun to them.
To weld Aluminum you really need a spool gun.
Some have claimed by putting in a Teflon Liner to the Hobart 140. Then holding the MIG cable as level as possible, you can feed Aluminum wire up the MIG cord to the welding torch.
And so do a small amount of Aluminum welding.
This takes skill, patience and still may not work.
Aluminum welding wire is soft and is easily crushed and tangled.
You could try, sure, but don’t be surprised if you give up in frustration.
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Shielding Gas Compared 130 v 140
I think here is where some of the difference in price can be seen.
Both are MIG welders, which means they can use solid wire and shielding gas for welding.
Being able to use solid wire and gas means fewer spatters as you weld and could give you neater welds.
Argon and Carbon Dioxide
Both welders will weld with an Argon and Carbon Dioxide gas mix.
On the Hobart 130 although this welder has a built in gas valve, the welder is not supplied with a gas hose or a regulator. This is seen as an option and will need to be purchased separately.
The Hobart Handler 140 in contrast is supplied with a quality dual gauge gas regulator ready for Argon/CO2 gas. A gas mix that is the most commonly used gas mixture for welding.
You can find out more about the best gas mixes for MIG welding mild steel in my article here.
Pure Carbon Dioxide
Only the Hobart 140 claims to be able to use 100% Carbon Dioxide gas.
Cylinders of 100% Carbon Dioxide are cheaper to buy than an Argon/Carbon Dioxide gas mix and some who weld prefer using it.
You will need to purchase a different gas regulator to use 100% Carbon Dioxide. The supplied gas regulator is not suitable for Carbon Dioxide.
Both Handlers will support Tri-Mix gas. Tri-Mix Gas is typically used for welding stainless steel.
If you plan to use shielding gas and solid wire then you will need to factor in the cost of a hose and regulator onto the cost of the Hobart Handler 130.
Changing the Polarity on The Hobart Hander 130 vs 140
You’ll need to change polarity when switching from welding with flux core wire to welding with solid wire and gas.
The welders are both similar inside and it is an easy job to change welding polarity.
No differences here.
Who Makes the Hobart 130 and the 140?
They are both manufactured by the US company Hobart Welding Products. The company has made welders since 1917.
They are also designed in the US and it is worth noting that Hobart Welding Products was sold to ITW a few years ago.
ITW also bought Miller Electric Manufacturing co.
There is some speculation that the Hobart 130 is a reincarnation of the discontinued Miller 130. Whether this story is true or not there is no doubt that the two companies share technologies and common parts for their welders.
Hobart Welding Products are a well respected manufacturer of welders and has been for a number of years.
Hobart MIG 130 and 140 Welder’s Manuals
Each manual is comprehensive and clear and makes it easy for the new owner to get up and running.
Click on the text to find and download your pdf copy of the manual for each welder.
In both the manuals you’ll find a copy of the welding parameters chart that will describe the metal thicknesses and settings and size of wire recommended. Extremely convenient if you should ruin the copy of the welding parameters chart printed on the inside of each welder’s cabinet door.
Hobart Handler 130 vs 140 What is in the Boxes?
In each box the MIG welders. And:
- Sample size of Flux Core Wire in each MIG box
- 2 x 0.030 inch contact tips in each MIG box.
- Owners Manual and set up guides
8 foot cable to the welding gun and a 8 foot ground cable with heavy duty ground clamp in the Hobart 130 box
10 foot cable to the welding gun and 10 foot ground cable with heavy duty ground clamp in the Hobart Handler 140 box
In addition in the Hobart 140 box there is
- a spool adaptor for 8 inch spools
- Dual gas gauge regulator and gas hose
- Material thickness gauge in the Hobart 140 box
Are they Portable?
Yes they are both in the portable class of welder. The Hobart Handler’s 130’s weight is 50.5 lbs
The Hobart 140 weighs 57 lbs.
The dimensions are;
Hobart Handler 130: 16.8 inches High x 9.8 inch Wide x 12.1 inch Long
Hobart Handler 140: 12 inches High x 11 inch Wide x 19.5 inch Long
They both are substantial weights and I would suggest you buy or make your own welding cart to move these babies around.
That way should you want to MIG weld with a cylinder of gas you can accommodate that on your weld cart as well.
Hobart Warranties Compared
Both Hobart’s has the famous 5/3/1 warranty.
5 years on the transformer, 3 years on the electronics, 1 year on the welding gun.
No difference to be seen here.
Last Words On the Hobart 130 vs 140
And there you have it. The Hobart 130 vs 140. The greater welding Amp range, metal thicknesses and MIG accessories show in the price of the Hobart 140
If you have no need for any of that then the Hobart 130 should be your choice.
I wish you well with your welding.
I have a fuller review of the Hobart Handler 130. Please feel free to go over and take a look.
I also have a fuller review specifically of the Hobart Handler 140 MIG. Please go ahead and take a look.