When you’re new to welding you wonder which is better? Flux core welding or MIG welding or
which one to use for a certain situation.
The truth is no one welding method is better than another.
Each welding process, and here you are focused on flux core welding vs MIG, is aimed toward different things.
Although there is some overlap. Flux core welding is better for some welding situations. And MIG welding for others.
Both flux core and MIG welding can produce sound welds.
Whether you use one rather than the other depends on:
- What you’re welding,
- Where you’re welding
- And the finish you would like to for your weld.
And to some extent which you use comes down to personal preferences.
Let me walk you through some key points and differences.
- Flux Core and MIG Terminology
- A YouTube Video Comparing Flux Core Welding and MIG
- Flux Core Welding vs MIG Welding the Wire Used
- Weld Polarity of Flux Core and MIG Welding
- MIG Shielding Gas Compared to Flux Core
- Flux Core or MIG Welding: Strength of the Weld
- Looking at MIG Metal Penetration v Flux Core
- Flux Core Welding Compared to MIG: Thickness of Metal Welded
- Types of Metals you can Weld with Flux Core or MIG
- MIG Versus Flux Core Weld Quality
- Slag and Spatter of MIG and Flux Core
- Flux Core and MIG Compared on ‘Dirty Steel’
- Using Flux Core For Car Body Panels
- Flux Core VS MIG Welding Which is Cheaper
- Where You can Weld: Flux Core VS MIG
- YouTube Video Demonstrating Flux Core Welding In High Winds
- MIG vs Flux Core Other Considerations When Choosing Where To Weld
- A Round Up of Other MIG and Flux Core Differences
- Last Words
Flux Core and MIG Terminology
The first thing to know is that flux core welding’s official title is FCAW – Flux Core Arc Welding.
And that MIG welding’s official title is GMAW – Gas Metal Arc Welding.
When you’re not sure what each of these welding processes are. Then do check out these articles.
“What is Flux Core Welding for Beginners and Everyone Else” and the one on MIG welding “What is MIG Welding The Essential Need to Knows“.
As they will both give you a great grounding on the subject before diving into this article.
A YouTube Video Comparing Flux Core Welding and MIG
Here is a great 14 minutes 20 second video from weld.com that covers at a high level the difference between the two welding methods. Worth a watch or you can read on and learn more in this post.
MIG vs Flux Cored Welding and When to Use Each
Video Credit: weld.com
Flux Core Welding vs MIG Welding the Wire Used
The first important difference when comparing MIG welding and flux core welding is the electrode – the filler metal welding wire used.
Now both Flux core and MIG use a spool of welding wire as the welding electrode.
But when MIG welding you use a solid wire. For flux core welding the welding wire is tubular. Not sure what that is?
A good way to understand this is to think of the flux core welding wire as a bit like a filled straw. The outer part of the tubular wire is metal but the center contains flux something called flux. And this flux is what gives rise to the name flux core wire.
This is brief and high level description of flux core wire. Want to know more detail about flux core wire?
This difference in the construction of the two welding wires means the wires behave electrically in contrasting ways.
Weld Polarity of Flux Core and MIG Welding
One way the difference shows up is in the welding polarity welded with.
Generally you set your welding polarity on your welder different for MIG wire. Compared to Flux core welding wire.
Let’s talk specifics.
Self shielded flux core welding demands a DCEN (Direct Current Electrode Negative) setting when you weld.
What this means is when flux core welding, you need to set your electrical current to your welding gun (the welding gun contains your welding wire), to the negative terminal.
And the ground clamp attached to your welding project or the welding table, to the positive terminal.
MIG welding needs DCEP (Direct Current Electrode Positive).
The polar opposite. The MIG gun set to the positive terminal.
MIG welders that can also flux core weld have terminals that can be changed from one to the other.
It’s important for your weld that you’ve the right setting for your welding wire. As you may well find the welding arc fails to form. Or you’ve a really poor weld at the end.
Flux core only welders only use flux core welding wire and will be made and manufactured set to DCEN when you buy.
It’s worth you noting some exceptions to the above.
Not all Flux core wire is welded with a DCEN setting.
Self shielded flux core wire for welding stainless steel needs a DCEP setting and so can only be used in a welder that allows you to change to this polarity.
Dual shielded flux core wire (also known as gas shielded) is welded with separate shielding gas, just like MIG welding. This wire also needs a DCEP setting.
MIG Shielding Gas Compared to Flux Core
You weld solid MIG wire with shielding gas. This means you’ve a high pressure tank of gas. That tank you connect to a regulator or flow meter. And then you’ve a hose running into the MIG welder.
This means your welding machine needs to be capable of connecting to a separate tank of shielding gas.
Self Shielded Flux Core wire makes the protective gasses for the weld at the point of welding. The flux inside the wire melts and produces gas as one of the things the flux does. This gas covers the weld pool.
The advantage of this way of welding is that no transportation or purchase of a cylinder of gas is needed for self shielded flux core welding.
Dual Shielded Flux core wire however demands a shielding gas is used and so in this aspect is similar to MIG welding. Where you need a regulator, hose and a MIG welder capable of feeding that gas.
In MIG welding the type of gases used are:
- Argon Carbon Dioxide mixes
- Pure Carbon Dioxide
- MIG welding uses Tri-Mix (a mix of Helium, Argon and Carbon Dioxide) to weld Stainless Steel.
Dual shielded flux core wire uses similar gas mixes as part of the dual shield of the welding wire. The gases are;
Argon, Argon Carbon Dioxide mixes and pure carbon dioxide.
Flux Core or MIG Welding: Strength of the Weld
Some swear that MIG welding gives a stronger weld.
Others will argue that flux core welding does.
The truth is both methods using this narrow measurement are the same – from a strength point of view. They will both produce a weld that will hold and a weld that is just as strong as each other – When welded well.
Lets take an example of welding 18 gauge mild steel, a thickness of metal that both MIG and Flux core wire is capable of welding.
And then you look at the filler wire electrode. Solid steel welding wire used for MIG welding compared to mild steel flux core. They both have to conform to the American Welding Society standard of a minimum of 70 ksi tensile strength.
Assuming the amperage and wire feed speed and gas coverage (in the case of MIG or gas shielded flux core) is correctly set for the wire.
And the skill of the person welding is the same.
All things being equal, no one wire will make the stronger weld. The strength will be the same.
It’s not here you’ll see a difference.
Looking at MIG Metal Penetration v Flux Core
Flux core welding has the reputation of delivering better metal penetration compared to MIG welding. Is it true?
Again, the answer is it depends, as both welding methods used effectively will give great metal penetration.
The truth of this argument lies in the amperage or volts you’ve available to weld with compared to metal thickness.
Or put another way, what can you weld for the electrical input into the weld.
Flux core will allow you to weld thicker metal for the amount of amps – electrical power sent down the wire to form the arc.
Let me take you through an example. The Hobart 140 using flux core mild steel wire 0.030 size.
will weld 3/16th of an inch (4.8 mm) thick base metal at its setting number 4 and using 45 wire feed setting.
Compared to MIG welding with solid wire for mild steel. Taking the same sized welding wire 0.030 with C25 shielding gas, the Hobart 140 will weld 1/8 of an inch (3.2 mm) thick base metal at the welder’s number 4 setting and 40 wire feed speed.
For the same welding setting on the Hobart 140 you can weld 3/16th flux core compared to 1/8 with MIG.
You’ll find the same is true whether you’re talking about any welder, Hobart, Lincoln, Everlast, …
You can use less amperage for the wire size and gauge of metal welded with flux core welding.
Or think of it this way
Flux core welding gives more weld for your electrical buck.
When you’re welding at the welding limit of your welder, using flux core wire will allow you to weld thicker metal. And when taking your flux core welder to a weld site you’ll not need as big a generator to weld compared to MIG welding.
Flux Core Welding Compared to MIG: Thickness of Metal Welded
Following on from the better penetration argument the difference in the two processes can be seen in the thickness of metal each can weld.
Flux core as the ‘hotter’ process generally is used for a minimum of 20 gauge metal as its thinnest metal welded. Or you risk blowing holes through your metal.
Versus MIG welding with solid wire and gas will weld down to 24 gauge.
Note: Bigger number gauges mean thinner metal.
This is partly helped by solid wire being available in smaller diameter wire sizes. But the ‘cooler’ MIG welding process is better suited to thinner gauges of metal.
At the opposite end of the spectrum. When you’ve a powerful enough welder and gas shielded flux core wire to weld with you can zip through welding half inch thick steel in a single pass with flux core wire.
Flux core wins when your looking at thick gauges of metal and it’s why the construction and ship building industries have used flux core welding for many years.
Types of Metals you can Weld with Flux Core or MIG
When you compare MIG welding and flux core welding there is some overlap in terms of metals welded and some notable differences.
Flux core is used to weld galvanized steel. It’s the process that copes with that steel covering.
MIG welding needs the galvanization completely cleaned off before welding.
Both MIG welding and flux core welding will weld mild steel and low alloy steel.
MIG welding is the welding process of choice for welding Aluminum as there is no flux core wire that will weld Aluminum.
MIG Versus Flux Core Weld Quality
MIG is often claimed to produce the better quality weld. Is this true?
To answer the question a definition of quality is needed.
When the strength of the weld is a definition of quality then both welding methods produce a strong weld.
When the look of the finished weld is your measurement then with skilled hands both processes will produce good looking welds.
One issue with MIG welding is it seems easier to produce a quality weld. But in novice hands a great looking weld can be produced that has little metal penetration. Effectively the filler metal sits on top of the weld joint and doesn’t penetrate at all well, leading to the ‘good looking’ weld failing over time.
So where does this argument come from?
Slag and Spatter of MIG and Flux Core
The argument that says MIG produces better quality welds is normally down to the production of slag and spatter in flux core welding.
Flux core welding as part of its welding process produces a welding slag. A covering over the hot weld pool that needs to cool before it’s removed to reveal the underlying weld.
The flux in the flux core welding wire also removes impurities from the weld into the slag.
The covering called slag in MIG welding is lighter and more easily brushed away.
Spatter is produced by the welding wire sending spots of molten metal all around the weld area.
Both flux core welding and MIG welding produces spatter. And the amount of spatter produced in MIG welding depends on the shielding gas used. For example MIG welding with Carbon Dioxide gas is well known for spatter production.
Yet flux core welding is expected to result in more spatter.
The truth is, that with the right settings used for your flux core welding the slag can pretty much peel itself off. Welding spatter minimized and brushed away using Anti Spatter products.
The argument has some merit and to some extent flux core welding does need more clean up of slag and spatter.
Dual Shielded flux core welding is even better than MIG welding for light weld coverage after welding and low spatter – of course with the correct settings and gas used.
Flux Core and MIG Compared on ‘Dirty Steel’
MIG welding is intolerant of ‘dirty steel’. This means any steel that is rusty, or covered in mill scale or has paint or galvanization on it.
Metal you MIG weld needs thorough cleaning down to the base metal. Or a poor weld with porosity within the weld and the weld rusting and failing will be the result.
Versus Flux core welding which is much more tolerant of ‘dirty steel’, because one feature of the flux core welding wire is that it contains scavengers. And
these scavengers lift impurities from the base metal into the slag where it’s chipped off at the end.
Both MIG welding and flux core welding needs any oil removed from the weld point.
And it’s always advised to have your metal as clean as possible before welding. But flux core welding is the method of choice where you need to weld an item that is galvanized. Or can’t be easily cleaned because of where it is.
Using Flux Core For Car Body Panels
MIG or indeed TIG welding is often chosen for the visible parts of car body repairs.
This is mainly because the MIG welding process is more effective for the thinner steel used in car panels.
Plus once you’ve made your weld you need to prime and paint your weld for the best finish.
Using flux core welding for body panels is firstly a problem as the metal is often thinner and flux core welding is just not suited to it.
An inexperienced welder thinking little cleaning of the weld is needed, may well find their flux core weld distributes the impurities through the weld area because they are welding quickly to prevent blowing through the metal,
Or alternative using short tack welds to prevent blowing holes in the metal.
But flux core welding needs good slag coverage, as it’s in the welding slag that the impurities are gathered.
And good slag needs heat and enough time to form.
The rush to not blow through the metal or a lot of short tack welds with flux core welding will result in bad slag coverage and impurities and slag within the weld.
And no amount of grinding of the surface of the weld is going to cure that.
And then applying body filler and or primer on top is not going to work on a surface with impurities. Never mind the weld itself holding over time.
Because of this a complete clean of the surface and then MIG welding is often the way to go.
And when you’re really pushing the envelope of MIG welding on thin metal body panels, a series of tack welds on thinner material is only really feasible with a MIG welder.
Flux Core VS MIG Welding Which is Cheaper
Some say MIG welding is the cheaper welding method compared to flux core welding. Because the solid welding wire of MIG welding is cheaper to buy pound per pound compared to flux core welding wire. This is true.
But the argument is not quite as straight forward as that.
Flux core only welders tend to be cheaper to buy than a MIG welder that can also weld with flux core wire. Though of course you do have more flexibility with a welder that can weld with both methods – you can choose the method you want to use.
What is missing from the ‘flux core welding is more expensive’ argument is;
- MIG wire needs shielding gas
- You need to buy a tank of gas. With the implications of needing different tanks filled with different gasses. Because you need a certain type of gas for each type of metal you weld
- Size of tank and transportation of your tank of gas to and from where it’s refilled
- Safe storage of the gas cylinder, including safe lifting and moving it to where you weld
- Buying the gas itself
When all these costs are taken into account you may well find the cost versus convenience of flux wire is much closer than you thought.
Where You can Weld: Flux Core VS MIG
MIG welding and gas shielded flux core welding are inside processes. Meaning you’ll need a work shop, garage or work space to weld in.
As MIG welding and dual shielded flux core welding uses a tank of shielding gas. This gas is sensitive to wind and can be blown away, leaving the hot welded metal unprotected outdoors.
Yes, you can put up wind shields to protect your weld area when you need to MIG weld out in a field. But is yet more stuff needed at your weld site. And transported to your weld site.
Self shielded flux core welding is the welding process of choice when welding outside. Self shielded flux core welding is tolerant of quite windy conditions. And there is less equipment to take to an outdoor location.
Take your welder filled with welding wire, a means of getting electricity and your safety wear and you’re ready to weld.
YouTube Video Demonstrating Flux Core Welding In High Winds
Here is a 8 minute 38 second video for you. When you watch the first few minutes you’ll get the idea. You’ll see a flux core weld outdoors. And in pretty windy conditions.
It shows well the benefits of flux core for outdoors.
Flux Core Welding Thin Tubing
Video Credit: TheToolReview
MIG vs Flux Core Other Considerations When Choosing Where To Weld
Just because MIG welding is an indoor process this does not mean you do not need ventilation, whether MIG welding or flux core welding good ventilation is needed for the person welding.
Because: MIG welding and dual shielded flux core welding uses gasses that could suffocate you when leaked, killing silently. Good ventilation is a must.
Flux core welding produces more smoke and fumes while welding and can make it difficult to see the weld puddle.
And some of these fumes are noxious and shouldn’t be breathed in.
A Round Up of Other MIG and Flux Core Differences
1. Flux core welding is more often used for out of position welding. This is where you’re welding at any angle other than a flat, horizontal angle. Vertical, uphill and particularly for overhead welding flux core wins.
2. Both welding methods need a contact tip of the right size for the welding wire used. MIG needs a nozzle over the contact tip to direct the shielding gas to cover the weld pool.
3. Flux core welding needs greater welding wire stickout length. Around twice the stickout compared to MIG welding.
But always check the stickout recommendations from the manufacturer of the welding wire you’re using.
4.Flux core wire needs knurled drive rolls installed inside the welder to feed the flux core wire over. The grooves in knurled drive rolls are U shaped and notched to gently grip the more delicate flux core wire. MIG welder drive rolls have V shaped grooves to feed the solid MIG wire.
5. The welding gun angle for flux core welding is a drag angle generally. This means you angle your welding wire and gun angled of the weld pool. This is because this angle helps build the right slag cover for flux core welding. For MIG welding you use the opposite. A push angle is generally used.
Did you enjoy my head to head assessment of flux core welding vs MIG welding? And now you know that the welding method you choose to use depends on what you’re welding.
The type of metal, the kind of object you’re welding. When it cannot be cleaned well or brought inside where you can MIG weld then your option when comparing the two is to flux core weld.